Go for it at 13, all you really need to do is research extensively about hgh and what not and since you’re 13 you have plenty free time, seen 14 year olds run mtren
Taking hgh at your age can be good, but I'd recommend a secretagogue like MK for a slightly lower risk profile if you mess up dosages.
This is also something you need to be monitoring yourself, even if you don't get bloods done, you need to be managing your dosage and keeping records.
This is also something you need to be monitoring yourself, even if you don't get bloods done, you need to be managing your dosage and keeping records.
This would also make sense to me. I mean Im not going to sit here and larp like I am truly an expert when it comes to gh, especially when it comes to adolescence, and having a goal of masculinisation. That said I remember when mk677 was going through clinical trials (under ibutamoren) bcs I was betting on it. iirc a lot of the proposed benefit to having it as a secretagogue is that it would mess up normal development less. Perhaps you would understand why better than I do
It's less about altering normal development, and more about more stable long term levels of GH and IGF-1 at his age, which would lead to greater overall masculinisation compared to pinning hgh and having the peaks and troughs associated with the serum levels of hgh.
that definitely makes some sense. is there any mechanism for this leading to any desensitization effects though, like you see with overly stable estrogen, or no?
Not really, though you do see high levels of hgh and igf-1 cause down regulation of gene transcription, so while both mk677 and exo-hgh can have some long term side effects, MK being a secretagogue is more limited by the pituitary, and is less likely to cause issues due to user error, which due to his age is something I would mark of import.
So would taking hgh at my age just help with a more stable long term peak growth?
Increasing GH will help with height and bone masculinization, but pinning hgh is the less stable option with higher peaks, which is why I recommend an oral like mk677.
The major thing to note, if you're pinning hgh it's easier to run into issues like Acromegaly which will make you look retarded.
A secretagogue isn't free from risk of Acromegaly, but is less likely as long as you're not megadosing like a moron.
Also another major thing, if you're looking at androgens, you should wait a couple years before you get into anything like test, though something like mtren or fluoxymesterone are usable.
But if you raise your test levels too high at your age, you can limit your height growth potential by increasing estrogen, though mtren, fluoxymesterone, and other synth-test analogues avoid this by not metabolising into estrogen.
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We heart megadosing 36iu of hgh tho
So should I take mk at a slow amount to try to maximize my height and is there any ways to not get side effects I did like 5 minutes of research and it says it can effect your insulin or more would taking less then the recommended amount let me bypass the side effects I’m already pretty tall so I don’t need to go all in I just want to make sure I can grow to at least like 6’2 6’3
tbh from my understanding, if ur not running anything but mk, and youre otherwise relatively healthy, then insulin shouldnt be a major concern. id get a glucose monitor if u were worried tho
Ok I’m wanting to run Reta as well should I wait until im off of it or just run them both
depends on ur risk tolerance ofc. personally id be more than happy to run both, but im pretty low-inhib. tbh if u really don't gaf and just want to be tall then u could even run erda jfl
If that's your height goal, then I would start at a mid range 10 to 12.5mg a day of MK677, but but but I would also absolutely recommend you take a AI to try limit estrogen as much as possible if you do want to be 6'2.
Also yes, insulin resistance is a worry, but it's even more of a worry if you were pinning hgh, which is why I do recommend a middle dose of 10 to 12.5 rather than going for 25 to 30mg.
I would be on MK for at least 3 months before starting reta, just to see how your blood sugars do.
You might want to get a blood glucose monitor off amazon.
But running both should be fine.
I think I’ll just go low mg when on Reta then go higher when I’m off of it