Venting REALITY AS A SUB8 MALE - Sad irl story from a Family member who roped (DNR IF SUICIDAL)

[King]

DISCLAIMER: this is a serious post, I don’t plan on posting this on any other forum other than .cc

Please don’t fucking type Slop like „DNR“, if you don’t wanna read just skip it. it’s a serious convo and if not ready just leave

If you are suicidal please consider not reading this post, for your own safety

This is a Vent post so please be understanding, how people differently cope with their grief

Thanks

Spoiler: Theme

Well guys…


Im so fucked up rn, because this shit, I feel fucking shit

Cuz ts the most brutal irl blackpilling story Ive personally ever experienced.

This story is about my uncle (prop name: Carlos) he’s the ex-husband of my aunt (prop name: Anna). this whole situation confirmed pretty much everything we talk about here: the brutal reality of an subChad male


The typical JBF story


Anna is my dad’s older sister, for context she is blonde, with a European pheno (yet has brown eyes, Dk how). Carlos was a white/pardo typical Brazilian with brown hair. they were both from Southern Brazil, grew up and lived in the same city

Well he was pretty decent but nothing special in terms of looks, somewhat above average especially in his younger years.

They got together when they were like 15–16. Typical teenage love (Jbf bwoo, teenage love is the best…)

They were madly in love, got married pretty young. By the age of 19/20 they already had moved to the USA,where they had my cousin and built what looked like a stable family happy life looking in from the outside .


Eventually They stayed together for OVER 20 FUCKING years, literally from their mid teens into their late 30. Everyone thought it was a happy marriage until...


The fall


After 20+ years Anna discovered my unc Carlos had been cheating possibly escorts or paid stuff, idk the details tbh. well the entire family fucking hated him and demonized him.

He became the ultimate villain

“How could he do this to her after everything?!! ”

They divorced Instantly.

Everything to the fucking ground

Well funnily enough, Anna quickly moved onto a clearly better looking guy, he has the same height, but he’s more dimorphic, better eye area, fucking Supras like o‘pry, textbook fucking upgrade. Everyone cheered her for finally being free „deserving better“.

Note: I’m not hating on my aunt obv here, just pointing out the facts


Carlos was completely finished mentally. No one ever asked about him.


What Actually Happened (changes everything)


About a month ago I was sitting, talking to my dad about the whole situation and everything that went down and he told me something Paticular which striked me:

Anna had stopped loving him COMPLETLY years earlier (LIKE 10 YEARS). She ONLY stayed in the marriage purely for my cousin not to grow up without a father/ deal with the pain of parents divorcing.

typical only here for the kids, but a dead bedroom situation. No Sex, no attraction, just resentment. Obv this took a friggin tll on Carlos


Over the decades his looks started decling, my aunt started to get more options due to her superior looks and good aging

He declined due to age, while she started getting more attention

This slowly turned him into a beta-buxx and dead bedroom oofy. When he finally couldn’t hold it together anymore and wanted intimacy /sex elsewhere instead he got total defcon.


This is the simple endgame for ALOT, I mean ALOT OF sub-8 men in Ltr’s : JBF, while she’s young bwo

date and marry her while she has limited options from not living in the west

her hypergamy never fucking sleeps

once you hit the wall and the Agepill approaches and your looks start to tank,the ending begins. The second you slip, you’re fuxked.


His Downfall


Well after the divorce Carlos completely spiraled down the hole. Started drinking A FUCK TON like, dangerously HEAVY.

Multiple NEAR death experiences. Had a serious DUI case, Lost his job, lost contact with almost everyone, went back to Brazil and became an neet shell.

he gave his entire youth and prime to her, the family he helped create hated him, and society, everybody around him DID NOT GIVE A SINGULAR FUCK.


When I heard all this I thought I wanted to call him, just to check up

Because as a blackpiller I was prolly the only person who actually understood the dynamics and pain he went through

What he did is wrong, cheating is wrong, but he was also a victim of a system that sets sub8 men like him up to fail and then punishes them when they do.

No one ever listened to him.


The Ending


Well…

3–4 days ago my dad called me and told me:

Carlos is dead.

Due to indirect suicide through alcohol (Heartattack)





Well… I never made that call. Now it’s too late.


This is blackpill reality:


A sub 8 sacrifices his entire life, money, resources and time for a woman who eventually stops finding him attractive.

He gets emotionally cucked first and then demonized when it falls apart .

„Buuuut Bwwoo why didn’t he divorce?“

You think it’s easy to divorce someone who you’ve been married to for 20+ years?

He just needed intimacy without losing his wife which he fucking loved

she is fine living, she moved on to a better looking guy, an upgrade, while getting celebrated for it.

Ik my aunty also was wronged in this and I don’t wanna maker her look bad, just demonstrating what the reality is for a lot of guys, not considering guys who never even got married and just roped khhv

Well Carlos You werent perfect.

But nobody even tried to understand you

You were just an oofy doofy who got chewedd up by female nature and a world lacking understanding for male suffering.






Foid claims:
majority of men aren’t supposed to exist and women agree and praise Chad:


View attachment v15044gf0000d54kb3vog65ksu4cuhmg.mov





This is how these type of woman see you if you are a sub 8 Male…

Genetic waste

Mistake

Unworthy DNA

Brutal…

 

[Administrator]

This is a great read, thank you for sharing with us. I am sorry for your loss.

It is always the truth that looks are everything, but also I feel with what those comments say (from the women in TikTok comments), it is hurtful - but only because it is true.

For instance I know they say we shouldn't exist as ugly men, that I don't have any disagreement with.

But now we live in an age where it is not just "ugly" men are unable to get any play or even a LTR, but the MTN and in cases even 6/10s.

I think for sure, the current state of society doesn't help. People are able to provide for themselves, survival isn't difficult anymore, it is the status quo. So we don't really see marriages for convenience anymore. In fact, the birth rate in western nations have fallen so much according to Hamilton et al. (2025), the current Governments have to literally import immigrants to prevent total work force collapse and economic stagnation ( sure the great replacement theory could play, but it is just simple economics. Because less people are having kids). The question really is why are we having less kids?

The reason for this could be a a variety of interplaying reasons. I personally believe :

1) Women can support themselves economically in 2026 (this is a good thing, however it means that there is less incentive for both men and women to combine resources, so when they do it is for other reasons other than economic. Think due to attraction, or for other vain and not so much functional reasons).

2) Social Media, ( I know we love to bash social media for the demise of the West, however although not proven, we know that Social media sets unattainable beauty standards for both men and women, this has the effect of setting womens standards much higher for their type or what they look for in a romantic partner and vice e versa).

3) Dating apps. Dating apps such as Hinge, Tinder or Bumble (not a comprehensive list) have made it much easier for WOMEN (not men. "Women who have used online dating platforms in the past year are more likely to feel overwhelmed by the number of messages they get, while men are more likely to feel insecure about a lack of messages." Vogels, E et al. (2023)) as a whole to hook up, go on dates or even just have one night stands with men they find attractive.

4) Back to social media again for a moment, Subotic et al. (2018 pp. 29-31) claims "Almost every woman thinks she's hotter than average". The authors also go on to state that "
it is safe to state that both women and men overrate their own PA (Perceived Attractiveness), but women are more likely to do it". This just plays into unbalancing the dating market even further, when women believe they more attractive than they really are, they will be more selective. This is another potential reason that men of similar looks to women are deemed "ugly" to women.

5) Women are more likely to view most of men as unattractive. "They found that while men rated women on roughly a bell curve distribution centered around medium (5/10), women rated 80% of men as below medium." (Women rate 80% of men as "below medium", while men rate on a bell curve (No Date)). This will also explain the increase in women aiming higher than their looksmatch.

To conclude, due to changing times, and womens actual preferences which are now (as opposed to the past) solely based on attraction as a measure of a potential partner, as opposed to status, job, family, status which may have been important in a different time.

And unforuntely, as with all things blackpill related, now women are the scarce resource, the demand remains constant. The women will only become more selective and hypergamous with time, this is basic economics.

I hope this is a nice in depth resposne to your high effort thread, for those of you who are reading my response as a none member of the forum, I also hope you appreciate this is as unbiased a response I can summon which has been well researched and correctly referenced for your ease to find where my claims come from!

References​

Hamilton et al. (2025) Births: Provisional Data for 2024. Available at: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/vsrr038.pdf (Accessed: 16 Feb 2026).

Vogels, E et al. (2023) Key findings about online dating in the U.S. Available at: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/02/key-findings-about-online-dating-in-the-u-s/ (Accessed: 16 Feb 2026).

Subotić, S. and Borojević, S. (2018) Empirical studies in pyschology. FACULTY OF PHILOSOPHY, UNIVERSITY OF BELGRADE. Available at: https://empirijskaistrazivanja.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/EIP18-Zbornik-radova-u-celini.pdf (Accessed: 16 Feb 2026)

Women rate 80% of men as "below medium", while men rate on a bell curve (No Date) Available at: Incels Wiki (Accessed: 16 Feb 2026).

 

[Floonth]

DISCLAIMER: this is a serious post, I don’t plan on posting this on any other forum other than .cc

Please don’t fucking type Slop like „DNR“, if you don’t wanna read just skip it. it’s a serious convo and if not ready just leave

If you are suicidal please consider not reading this post, for your own safety

This is a Vent post so please be understanding, how people differently cope with their grief

Thanks

Spoiler: Theme

Well guys…


Im so fucked up rn, because this shit, I feel fucking shit

Cuz ts the most brutal irl blackpilling story Ive personally ever experienced.

This story is about my uncle (prop name: Carlos) he’s the ex-husband of my aunt (prop name: Anna). this whole situation confirmed pretty much everything we talk about here: the brutal reality of an subChad male


The typical JBF story


Anna is my dad’s older sister, for context she is blonde, with a European pheno (yet has brown eyes, Dk how). Carlos was a white/pardo typical Brazilian with brown hair. they were both from Southern Brazil, grew up and lived in the same city

Well he was pretty decent but nothing special in terms of looks, somewhat above average especially in his younger years.

They got together when they were like 15–16. Typical teenage love (Jbf bwoo, teenage love is the best…)

They were madly in love, got married pretty young. By the age of 19/20 they already had moved to the USA,where they had my cousin and built what looked like a stable family happy life looking in from the outside .


Eventually They stayed together for OVER 20 FUCKING years, literally from their mid teens into their late 30. Everyone thought it was a happy marriage until...


The fall


After 20+ years Anna discovered my unc Carlos had been cheating possibly escorts or paid stuff, idk the details tbh. well the entire family fucking hated him and demonized him.

He became the ultimate villain

“How could he do this to her after everything?!! ”

They divorced Instantly.

Everything to the fucking ground

Well funnily enough, Anna quickly moved onto a clearly better looking guy, he has the same height, but he’s more dimorphic, better eye area, fucking Supras like o‘pry, textbook fucking upgrade. Everyone cheered her for finally being free „deserving better“.

Note: I’m not hating on my aunt obv here, just pointing out the facts


Carlos was completely finished mentally. No one ever asked about him.


What Actually Happened (changes everything)


About a month ago I was sitting, talking to my dad about the whole situation and everything that went down and he told me something Paticular which striked me:

Anna had stopped loving him COMPLETLY years earlier (LIKE 10 YEARS). She ONLY stayed in the marriage purely for my cousin not to grow up without a father/ deal with the pain of parents divorcing.

typical only here for the kids, but a dead bedroom situation. No Sex, no attraction, just resentment. Obv this took a friggin tll on Carlos


Over the decades his looks started decling, my aunt started to get more options due to her superior looks and good aging

He declined due to age, while she started getting more attention

This slowly turned him into a beta-buxx and dead bedroom oofy. When he finally couldn’t hold it together anymore and wanted intimacy /sex elsewhere instead he got total defcon.


This is the simple endgame for ALOT, I mean ALOT OF sub-8 men in Ltr’s : JBF, while she’s young bwo

date and marry her while she has limited options from not living in the west

her hypergamy never fucking sleeps

once you hit the wall and the Agepill approaches and your looks start to tank,the ending begins. The second you slip, you’re fuxked.


His Downfall


Well after the divorce Carlos completely spiraled down the hole. Started drinking A FUCK TON like, dangerously HEAVY.

Multiple NEAR death experiences. Had a serious DUI case, Lost his job, lost contact with almost everyone, went back to Brazil and became an neet shell.

he gave his entire youth and prime to her, the family he helped create hated him, and society, everybody around him DID NOT GIVE A SINGULAR FUCK.


When I heard all this I thought I wanted to call him, just to check up

Because as a blackpiller I was prolly the only person who actually understood the dynamics and pain he went through

What he did is wrong, cheating is wrong, but he was also a victim of a system that sets sub8 men like him up to fail and then punishes them when they do.

No one ever listened to him.


The Ending


Well…

3–4 days ago my dad called me and told me:

Carlos is dead.

Due to indirect suicide through alcohol (Heartattack)





Well… I never made that call. Now it’s too late.


This is blackpill reality:


A sub 8 sacrifices his entire life, money, resources and time for a woman who eventually stops finding him attractive.

He gets emotionally cucked first and then demonized when it falls apart .

„Buuuut Bwwoo why didn’t he divorce?“

You think it’s easy to divorce someone who you’ve been married to for 20+ years?

He just needed intimacy without losing his wife which he fucking loved

she is fine living, she moved on to a better looking guy, an upgrade, while getting celebrated for it.






Well Carlos You werent perfect.

But nobody even tried to understand you

You were just an oofy doofy who got chewedd up by female nature and a world lacking understanding for male suffering.


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Foid claims:
majority of men aren’t supposed to exist and women agree and praise Chad:


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This is how these type of woman see you if you are a sub 8 Male…

Genetic waste

Mistake

Unworthy DNA

Brutal…

Very well written post, I am sorry for your lost. I remember seeing some of these TikTok comments before, I find the "all the strong men died in war" thing genuinely disgusting, how these recessed women can call average men genetic failures is beyond me.

 

[King]

This is a great read, thank you for sharing with us. I am sorry for your loss.

It is always the truth that looks are everything, but also I feel with what those comments say (from the women in TikTok comments), it is hurtful - but only because it is true.

For instance I know they say we shouldn't exist as ugly men, that I don't have any disagreement with.

But now we live in an age where it is not just "ugly" men are unable to get any play or even a LTR, but the MTN and in cases even 6/10s.

I think for sure, the current state of society doesn't help. People are able to provide for themselves, survival isn't difficult anymore, it is the status quo. So we don't really see marriages for convenience anymore. In fact, the birth rate in western nations have fallen so much according to Hamilton et al. (2025), the current Governments have to literally import immigrants to prevent total work force collapse and economic stagnation ( sure the great replacement theory could play, but it is just simple economics. Because less people are having kids). The question really is why are we having less kids?

The reason for this could be a a variety of interplaying reasons. I personally believe :

1) Women can support themselves economically in 2026 (this is a good thing, however it means that there is less incentive for both men and women to combine resources, so when they do it is for other reasons other than economic. Think due to attraction, or for other vain and not so much functional reasons).

2) Social Media, ( I know we love to bash social media for the demise of the West, however although not proven, we know that Social media sets unattainable beauty standards for both men and women, this has the effect of setting womens standards much higher for their type or what they look for in a romantic partner and vice e versa).

3) Dating apps. Dating apps such as Hinge, Tinder or Bumble (not a comprehensive list) have made it much easier for WOMEN (not men. "Women who have used online dating platforms in the past year are more likely to feel overwhelmed by the number of messages they get, while men are more likely to feel insecure about a lack of messages." Vogels, E et al. (2023)) as a whole to hook up, go on dates or even just have one night stands with men they find attractive.

4) Back to social media again for a moment, Subotic et al. (2018 pp. 29-31) claims "Almost every woman thinks she's hotter than average". The authors also go on to state that "
it is safe to state that both women and men overrate their own PA (Perceived Attractiveness), but women are more likely to do it". This just plays into unbalancing the dating market even further, when women believe they more attractive than they really are, they will be more selective. This is another potential reason that men of similar looks to women are deemed "ugly" to women.

5) Women are more likely to view most of men as unattractive. "They found that while men rated women on roughly a bell curve distribution centered around medium (5/10), women rated 80% of men as below medium." (Women rate 80% of men as "below medium", while men rate on a bell curve (No Date)). This will also explain the increase in women aiming higher than their looksmatch.

To conclude, due to changing times, and womens actual preferences which are now (as opposed to the past) solely based on attraction as a measure of a potential partner, as opposed to status, job, family, status which may have been important in a different time.

And unforuntely, as with all things blackpill related, now women are the scarce resource, the demand remains constant. The women will only become more selective and hypergamous with time, this is basic economics.

I hope this is a nice in depth resposne to your high effort thread, for those of you who are reading my response as a none member of the forum, I also hope you appreciate this is as unbiased a response I can summon which has been well researched and correctly referenced for your ease to find where my claims come from!

References​

Hamilton et al. (2025) Births: Provisional Data for 2024. Available at: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/vsrr038.pdf (Accessed: 16 Feb 2026).

Vogels, E et al. (2023) Key findings about online dating in the U.S. Available at: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/02/key-findings-about-online-dating-in-the-u-s/ (Accessed: 16 Feb 2026).

Subotić, S. and Borojević, S. (2018) Empirical studies in pyschology. FACULTY OF PHILOSOPHY, UNIVERSITY OF BELGRADE. Available at: https://empirijskaistrazivanja.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/EIP18-Zbornik-radova-u-celini.pdf (Accessed: 16 Feb 2026)

Women rate 80% of men as "below medium", while men rate on a bell curve (No Date) Available at: Incels Wiki (Accessed: 16 Feb 2026).

Thank you admin read the whole thing

Very well written post, I am sorry for your lost. I remember seeing some of these TikTok comments before, I find the "all the strong men died in war" thing genuinely disgusting, how these recessed women can call average men genetic failures is beyond me.

Thank you floonth

 

[Sukhoi]

DISCLAIMER: this is a serious post, I don’t plan on posting this on any other forum other than .cc

Please don’t fucking type Slop like „DNR“, if you don’t wanna read just skip it. it’s a serious convo and if not ready just leave

If you are suicidal please consider not reading this post, for your own safety

This is a Vent post so please be understanding, how people differently cope with their grief

Thanks

Spoiler: Theme

Well guys…


Im so fucked up rn, because this shit, I feel fucking shit

Cuz ts the most brutal irl blackpilling story Ive personally ever experienced.

This story is about my uncle (prop name: Carlos) he’s the ex-husband of my aunt (prop name: Anna). this whole situation confirmed pretty much everything we talk about here: the brutal reality of an subChad male


The typical JBF story


Anna is my dad’s older sister, for context she is blonde, with a European pheno (yet has brown eyes, Dk how). Carlos was a white/pardo typical Brazilian with brown hair. they were both from Southern Brazil, grew up and lived in the same city

Well he was pretty decent but nothing special in terms of looks, somewhat above average especially in his younger years.

They got together when they were like 15–16. Typical teenage love (Jbf bwoo, teenage love is the best…)

They were madly in love, got married pretty young. By the age of 19/20 they already had moved to the USA,where they had my cousin and built what looked like a stable family happy life looking in from the outside .


Eventually They stayed together for OVER 20 FUCKING years, literally from their mid teens into their late 30. Everyone thought it was a happy marriage until...


The fall


After 20+ years Anna discovered my unc Carlos had been cheating possibly escorts or paid stuff, idk the details tbh. well the entire family fucking hated him and demonized him.

He became the ultimate villain

“How could he do this to her after everything?!! ”

They divorced Instantly.

Everything to the fucking ground

Well funnily enough, Anna quickly moved onto a clearly better looking guy, he has the same height, but he’s more dimorphic, better eye area, fucking Supras like o‘pry, textbook fucking upgrade. Everyone cheered her for finally being free „deserving better“.

Note: I’m not hating on my aunt obv here, just pointing out the facts


Carlos was completely finished mentally. No one ever asked about him.


What Actually Happened (changes everything)


About a month ago I was sitting, talking to my dad about the whole situation and everything that went down and he told me something Paticular which striked me:

Anna had stopped loving him COMPLETLY years earlier (LIKE 10 YEARS). She ONLY stayed in the marriage purely for my cousin not to grow up without a father/ deal with the pain of parents divorcing.

typical only here for the kids, but a dead bedroom situation. No Sex, no attraction, just resentment. Obv this took a friggin tll on Carlos


Over the decades his looks started decling, my aunt started to get more options due to her superior looks and good aging

He declined due to age, while she started getting more attention

This slowly turned him into a beta-buxx and dead bedroom oofy. When he finally couldn’t hold it together anymore and wanted intimacy /sex elsewhere instead he got total defcon.


This is the simple endgame for ALOT, I mean ALOT OF sub-8 men in Ltr’s : JBF, while she’s young bwo

date and marry her while she has limited options from not living in the west

her hypergamy never fucking sleeps

once you hit the wall and the Agepill approaches and your looks start to tank,the ending begins. The second you slip, you’re fuxked.


His Downfall


Well after the divorce Carlos completely spiraled down the hole. Started drinking A FUCK TON like, dangerously HEAVY.

Multiple NEAR death experiences. Had a serious DUI case, Lost his job, lost contact with almost everyone, went back to Brazil and became an neet shell.

he gave his entire youth and prime to her, the family he helped create hated him, and society, everybody around him DID NOT GIVE A SINGULAR FUCK.


When I heard all this I thought I wanted to call him, just to check up

Because as a blackpiller I was prolly the only person who actually understood the dynamics and pain he went through

What he did is wrong, cheating is wrong, but he was also a victim of a system that sets sub8 men like him up to fail and then punishes them when they do.

No one ever listened to him.


The Ending


Well…

3–4 days ago my dad called me and told me:

Carlos is dead.

Due to indirect suicide through alcohol (Heartattack)





Well… I never made that call. Now it’s too late.


This is blackpill reality:


A sub 8 sacrifices his entire life, money, resources and time for a woman who eventually stops finding him attractive.

He gets emotionally cucked first and then demonized when it falls apart .

„Buuuut Bwwoo why didn’t he divorce?“

You think it’s easy to divorce someone who you’ve been married to for 20+ years?

He just needed intimacy without losing his wife which he fucking loved

she is fine living, she moved on to a better looking guy, an upgrade, while getting celebrated for it.






Well Carlos You werent perfect.

But nobody even tried to understand you

You were just an oofy doofy who got chewedd up by female nature and a world lacking understanding for male suffering.


View attachment 1382
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Foid claims:
majority of men aren’t supposed to exist and women agree and praise Chad:


View attachment 1385

View attachment 1386
View attachment 1389
View attachment 1391

This is how these type of woman see you if you are a sub 8 Male…

Genetic waste

Mistake

Unworthy DNA

Brutal…

well written i am so sorry for your loss tho its very difficult going through something like that i wish you the best